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I have been reading the topics here for about a month now, and I have noticed something (As if you couldn't miss it). In a lot of them, if not all of them, there seems to be a shit starter. He/she thinks they are all knowing and better then everyone else. They think they are right on every single comment they make, and are always changing the subject to what they want it to be, which is about them and their thoughts on what others are saying. It's kinda sad really. Like they don't have a life, and all they do is come here to start shit. Why must they comment on every single thing they think is wrong? Can they not ignore it and go on with their life? Now, I will say this. I am in no way debating their freedom of speech, but there comes a time when you just don't want to hear or read some shit that someone has to voice because they want to belittle everything, and want of have a normal conversation on topics with others. So what is the freakin' point of all of it? Is it to get some excitement out of their life which has about as much meaning as a knife in a gun fight? Or are they just bored to Hell, and instead of going out and having fun with friends, which I doubt there are any, they have to come here and bitch about this and that. Here's an idea. Ignore them. OH NO! Am I now an ass for wanting to ignore ignorance? Lets stop feeding the cancer. Hell, I bet the topics would get a lot better with out them changing all the time. I bet also when and if they read this they will just have too, HAVE TOO, make comments and use quotes to make what I have said seem stupid. I can't wait to see their replies.

07 Feb 2011, 17:03
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Well said, couldn't agree more, has the shit starter got some sort of distorted Messiah Complex? just let people have they're say, I cant be bothered to post anything usually cos it seems to turn into some fucking witch hunt! Anything and everything seems to be fascist these days. Cant understand how pissing people off and alienating them is gonna achieve anything, surely engaging people with a more subtle approach might actually make people think more and maybe take on board some of the ideas 'the shit stater' is putting across.

07 Feb 2011, 21:58
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haha yay!! so im not the only one thats sick of this dude? i know that i have been feeding the fire and giving "the shit starter" another thing to quote and make me look like a "poser". i hope that the topics can all be about what the topic is instead of another rant about how stupid we all are.
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ignore ignorance ?? hahaha you guys are the ignorant ones because you cant admit some bands are shitty instead you just keep worshipping your heroes of the scene

shut up and stop crying i have the right to give my opinion and i dont give a fuck about you

it is a shame that someone with an anarchist avatar is bitching me just because i am against fencewalker bands that are racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-semitist and friends with nazis.... you're not an anarchist

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07 Feb 2011, 22:35
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Wow ungovernable. Wow said I was talking about you? Unless you think....well, know I am talking about you. I said nothing about being against the things you mentioned. Did I? Um....no. I said, and I quote my own self, "They think they are right on every single comment they make, and are always changing the subject to what they want it to be, which is about them and their thoughts on what others are saying." To me that isn't about being against something such as racism, sexism, or anything else you might be again. It's about changing the subject.

Oh no. We like some bands you don't. Is it the end of the world? Um....no. Get over it and move on or don't. That seems to be what you choose anyway. Stay here and waste your life on the computer when you could be voicing your opinions to the public and get in real time debates. But no.

Did you write the book on Anarchism? I thought Anarchist are free to talk about what they want like you do, but I guess not. Damn. Oh well. Life moves on. But wait. You don't give a fuck. So why start all the shit? if you don't give a fuck then you could just ignore it and make better use of your time. Yeah, I guess it's to hard for ya.

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oh yeah right answering your posts takes my whole life hahahah because i waste a few minutes trying to make you understand you listen to shitty bands means i dont voice my opinion to the public and do real actions... what a joke

i dont give a fuck if i'm changing the subject, this website is against racism so when someone promote a band with racist members dont expect me to stay quiet and dont say anything to avoid changing the subject of the topic. stop crying.

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You guys do listen to shitty bands. But, really, I don't care. I don't care that your music is the complete opposite of what I consider punk, listen to what you want. I listen to Elvis and Mojo Nixon, got a problem?

You people are all so childish... especially the opening to this topic is mind-numbingly ignorant and hypocritical. The only posts I've seen by Ungovernable were him arguing points that you douchebags brought up, that's what an intelligent person does when he comes into contact with an opinion which he does not agree with--he fucking disagrees. It's the less intelligent people who make topics unnamingly vilifying someone for holding a different opinion. If you don't want to hear his opinion don't fuckin read it, you idiot. I don't remember the exact quote, but Nietzsche said something about people who hold back their opinions being cowards or something to that end. If you can't hold your opinion in a rational debate, keep your ignorant opinion out of the way of people who understand the scientific method. Or get your feelings hurt and necessitate a show like this.

I doubt any of you listen to anything worthwhile, but on the offside chance that you do, let me know.


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08 Feb 2011, 14:17
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@ungovernable - You think I really care what you say? Their just words. It's not like your holding a gun to my head. Hey, I will admit. I agreed with a lot (If not all of it. I can't remember.) on what you said on the "Skinheads Aren't Racist" topic. And why are the bands we listen to shit? Is it because YOU say so? Oh man. You must have written the book on Punk Rock too. Can I get your autograph? And yes, I was laughing when I typed that. As for changing the subject. It's not like it can't get changed back. It's the people that get stuck on what you said that changes it. You start it but they follow the leader. It's funny actually. The whole ignore the person part was where that was directed to. Not really you changing the subject. Just them getting stuck on it. Anyway. Keep doing what your doing. Yeah right, like your ever going to stop.

@Ripvil - Nope, no problem. I listen to Johnny Cash. As for this "topic". Yeah. I know. I just found someone I can fuck with. The real hypocritical part of this is that I agree with almost everything he says. I'm just a guy that likes to get under your skin. Even though it does get annoying sometimes to have someone come in and comment on something and everyone else has to follow. They are just expressing themselves. What I do like to see more is educating the ignorant one to the point your not pissing them off and they don't want to listen to you anymore? Know where I am getting at on this? Make it more friendly I guess. Calling the person a dumb-ass doesn't really help get your point across. Trust me. People have tried to explain things to me but I refuse to listen because they just have to call me something I didn't like, and nothing was accomplished. But, I express myself all the time. Hell. I have been kicked out of so many groups on facebook that I have lost count. As for the whole listen to shitty music thing. Dude, I have over 20,000 songs on my computer by bands from all over the world. Some the bands are; The Agrestix, Extinction of Mankind, Disgust, Disrupt, Anger Burning, Mouth Sewn Shut, Grumple, Flux of Pink Indians, The Virus, Gogol Bordello, and Victim of Faith. The list could go on and on. Tell me some of the bands you listen to. Bet I have a 7" or something by them. Just because I listen to The Casualties doesn't mean I stick to nothing but Street Punk. I got it all.

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08 Feb 2011, 21:49
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acutally this is stupid. ungovernable is alod to say whatever he wants and we can reply back. im going to stop being a little bitch and take in what he is saying. sorry ungovernable for being such a pussy and lets debate about shit like real people. just because he says that we listen to shitty bands doesnt mean that we have to change for him, he is just saying what he thinks and he doesnt care what we think. i dont think we have to be a bunch of babies and cry over it, because thats exactly what we are doing. i am glad that he said all the stuff about the explioted because now i have more information on the band and can choose weather to listen to them or not.
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And why are the bands we listen to shit? Is it because YOU say so?

No. I have already explained why those bands are shitty. Sex pistols are sellouts, johnny rotten makes ads for butter, sex pistols are selling perfumes and figurines, the exploited is shitty because theyre friend with nazis, they are racist, homophobic, sexist and anti-semitist, and casualties is shitty because they are fashion punks who only sing about getting drunk and having spikey hair. they're even sponsored by an hair glue company.

You may defend that you have the right to listen to those bands or defend the fact that they sound good, but you can't deny their attitude are fucking stupid.

Now stop crying because the topic of the debate changes, it's always like that in debate forums, if you're not happy then just get the fuck out... What do you expect ? We shouldnt open our mouth and say we think just because some moron may cry a river just because we changed the topic ?

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Not looking for any of that stuff, BloodyAnarchy, maybe you have something I'm looking for though. If so, tell me where to download it, fuck(list below). I call people dumbasses all the time, if that stops you from listening to people you should probably just stop listening right now. In my mind, any self-respecting human learns how to defend himself and the things he believes in--both physically and verbally. If you can defend yourself, my words do no harm because really, they hold no weight, they're just words. If you can't, I leave you alone after trying to make it obvious that you need to learn if you're gonna survive.


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After reading ungovernable's last reply, it sounds like he hasn't listened to a Casualties album sense "For the Punx" came out back the the early nineties. As for the other bands. Whatever. I tried going to the link you posted but nothing happened. Just go to these sites and get all the music you want. The blogspot ones have a shit load of other links on them that you can go to and get even more music, and a lot are in other languages so good luck with those.

http://punksandskins.com/dl.php?go=http ... ogspot.com

http://punksandskins.com/dl.php?go=http ... ogspot.com

http://punksandskins.com/dl.php?go=http ... o-punk.net

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Oh, and I forgot to mention. It's cool Ripvil. Now that I think about it doesn't hurt. I get over some shit pretty quickly. As for ungovernable. Let the mind games begin. Oh, this one is going to be easy. And by the way? Do you, ungovernable, only read part of what people right? I gave you a complement, kinda, and I said that the subject getting changed was not really your fault, but all you talk about is the band thing? Oooook. I'm not really crying either. It's more laughter than anything else. Seeing what you write sometimes just sends me to the floor. I might be deaf, but not blind. Plus I never mentioned the Sex Pistols or talked about The Exploited in the one topic. So why are you bring both those bands up now? Are they bands that I listen to now? Not really. I have their albums but haven't played one in forever. Can't get rid of them either. I am a freakin' pack rat when it comes to music.
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The link doesn't work? That's weird. But thanks for the sites man, I appreciate it. I'll check those out this weekend or something, sometime.
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ungovrnable keeps bringing up the sex pistols and the exploited because i said i like the sex pistols album i have and that i like the exploited too (not so sure on that anymore though after reading some of his posts!).
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After reading ungovernable's last reply, it sounds like he hasn't listened to a Casualties album sense "For the Punx" came out back the the early nineties.

I have listened to the new stuff, it still sucks, they are still fashion punks and their tentative of politisation is a big fail... "we are the leaders of today" bwahahahahahaha........ And Jorge with a Che Guevara t-shirt... what a fucking joke

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most people dont even know who che guevara is and just wear the shirts because they think it has to do with hippies or som shit.
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No prob Ripvil.

And now on the the not so intelligent one.
Oh my fucking God ungovernable. You have got to be kidding me. You pick those lyrics? Those fucking lyrics to call The Casualties sell outs by? The rest of the chorus goes "The ones who steal your money and the land you're living on" after they say "We are the leaders. The leaders of today". He's not talking about themselves or punks. He's talking about politicians. And here in America they can take your land without reason. We technically don't own the land we live on. The government does. So they can say, "Hey, we need the land your living on, and are not going to give you a good reason on why you have to leave your home of 20 years." And when he says "take your money" he's talking about taxes. And let me guess. Your going to say something like, "Oh I knew that is what Jorge was talking about, but they are still fashion punks for singing those lyrics." BOOHOO. You need to read the lyrics or listen to the whole song before you go and make assumptions about things. In fact, yeah. That is your fucking homework assignment, douche. You are to read the lyrics of all The Casualties songs to get a full understanding of what they are about. Here is a website to help with this assignment. http://www.plyrics.com/c/casualties.html. The song "We are the Leader" is not about punk rockers or The Casualties. It's about politicians, and after reading the lyrics to refresh my memory, they speak truth about what goes on with our government. Especially the part where Jorge says "I will lie to the poor and give to the rich". That is about the tax cuts George fucking Bush gave to the rich. He also did jack shit for the poor. He said he would but never did. That is where the "lie to the poor" part comes into play. If your not from America then stay the fuck out of our politics. You are a dumb-ass. After calling everyone else one you disagree with you should be looking at yourself. Sure you might know things about this and that, but in the big picture your nothing but a fucking guppy. BOOYAH BITCH! Oh, and adding the "bw" before hahahaha? What are you? Some mad scientist or someone from a bad B-movie? I PITY THE FOOL WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO LAUGH!

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why the fuck are you complaining about how he put bwahaha??? who fucking cares, if he wants to do that then he can do that. "booyah bitch" and "i pity the fool who dont know how to laugh" makes your point much stupider looking.
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