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TheMinority
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OK first off bourguise is middle class not upper class. Jorge came from a poor family so if he wants to ride in a limo go the fuck ahead he earned it. The exploited IS punk as fuck and thxs supporters.
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| 01 Feb 2011, 00:49 |
 
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
wow what a great argument "the exploited is punk as fuck because i said it so"...
If to you a punk is an idiot selling out and a fencewalker with nazi friends and racist idiot, then we don't have the same definition of what is a punk and i'm glad i don't fit under your definition.
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| 01 Feb 2011, 03:05 |
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TheMinority
Joined: 23 Jan 2011, 15:33
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Re: Best Casualties Album
dude, you are one giant biggot. The exploited founded hardcore punk How did the Exploited and The Casualties sell-out????? Like i said they earned their fame.
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| 01 Feb 2011, 15:28 |
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ungovernable
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Hahahahahaha you're a poser punk dude. The Exploited are sellouts, they bought themselves ferrari, they are all over the TV, they sell t-shirts for 75$, they have video-clips on MTV and everywhere on TV.... How the fuck can a band sell out more than them ?
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| 01 Feb 2011, 19:04 |
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TheMinority
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Re: Best Casualties Album
how am i poser??? and just becuase you sell shirts for "$75" or your music is on MTV doenst mean you sold out. Selling out is when you conform or only do songs yur label wants you to do. Example Green Day.
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| 01 Feb 2011, 20:11 |
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ungovernable
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Exploited sucks period. A band is a sell out when they start making video clips on MTV and such. A sell out band is a band that's in only for the money. Exploited are in only for the money and they are making a living out of punk. Or else they wouldnt sell their shit for so much and they wouldnt make shitty videoclip for the TV. They're so ridiculous, they made a song called "we never sell out" but they made a videoclip with this song and the videoclip is now on MTV hahahahaha thats so fucking contradictory.
You're a poser because you blindlessly defend the heroes of punk just because they're so cool and so famous. Thats not punk, thats idiocy at its best.
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| 01 Feb 2011, 20:24 |
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TheMinority
Joined: 23 Jan 2011, 15:33
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Re: Best Casualties Album
C, i knew you didnt know what the def. of sellout is jsut like you didnt know what bougusie was. and they arent in it for the money becusae thats called "rap"
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| 01 Feb 2011, 22:23 |
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
bougusie ? What the fuck is this word ? You don't even know how to spell BOURGEOISIE and then you pretend you know what it is.... hahahahaha.... You probably don't even know what social classes are and what the fuck is a class war, so shut the fuck up and don't teach me lessons on something you can't even spell.
A sellout is a band that's in for the money when they aren't supposed to play music only for the money, except in your book. Exploited are sellouts. Punk is dead.
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kierenfxxkinglegacy
Joined: 11 Jul 2010, 23:31
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Re: Best Casualties Album
okay dude the song "nazi punks fuck off" was about the skinheads and nazis in the east bay when racist skinheads just started showing up, shortly after the band skrewdriver started. it has nothing to do with the exploited or skater punks you silly wankers. i dont know where you get all this false information from. maybe you should go get a job and buy some books that have the real, first hand, information about the history behind the songs. no one in the exploited or any of their friends ever beat up a member of the dead kennedys and i bet they never even played with each other. the song "fuck a mod" is about kicking the shit out of the peopl in the mod scene and "porno slut" is about what it clearly says its about. how can you trust pictures on the internet with how well yopu can manipulate photos in digital media progrms. and they cant do anything about the people that beat up people at their shows and they are probably used to it because of the violence in the punk scene back in the day.
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Quote: okay dude the song "nazi punks fuck off" was about the skinheads and nazis in the east bay when racist skinheads just started showing up, shortly after the band skrewdriver started. it has nothing to do with the exploited or skater punks you silly wankers.
Oh ok, because we should listen to you instead of DK members.
Quote: i dont know where you get all this false information from
Comes from an official statement from Dead Kennedys
Quote: maybe you should go get a job and buy some books that have the real
maybe you should shut the fuck up
Quote: no one in the exploited or any of their friends ever beat up a member of the dead kennedys
yes, the exploited asked neo-nazis to beat dead kennedys members after they left a show, forgot where. i can get back the whole story if you want, but you probably wont listen to me anyway.
Quote: and i bet they never even played with each other
of course they never played with each other fucking idiot, wattie always hated jello biafra and we can hear him insulting him with homophobic insults on a live album
Quote: the song "fuck a mod" is about kicking the shit out of the peopl in the mod scene
yeah and thats fucking ridiculous. also, the exploited asked the punks to go beat up people assisting to a show by "The Jam". The next day, it was all over the news paper and the punks went to beat people at this gig. Henry Rollins wrote a text about the whole story on his official website.
Quote: and "porno slut" is about what it clearly says its about.
Sexism
Quote: how can you trust pictures on the internet with how well yopu can manipulate photos in digital media progrms
Hey fucking dumbass, Wattie himself admitted that those pictures are real on official Exploited myspace after they got beaten up by RASH Madrid for this story.
Here's a picture of wattie with an ex-skrewdriver member wearing a Blood&Honour t-shirt. Wattie confirmed it is a real picture on exploited's myspace
Another real picture with a bunch of nazis:
more arguments :
- In the original artwork of the LP ‚Death Before Dishonur, there are two photos in which members of the band are sieg heiling.
- In year 1988, on the 12 inch ‘ War Now‘, on the back cover, they put a photo of a Doctor with the dedication of „the bastard Jew who required him to sign 120 papaers before he was given a bandage for a wound“.
- Allegedly the Dead Kennedys song, „Nazi Punks fuck off“ is about Wattie.
- Allegedly, Wattie, before starting The Exploited, declared that he hated the immigrants who moved to Scotland and ruined his home.
- Allegedly, there is a recording where Wattie said that „hated Blacks, Philippinos, Latins and Arabs“.
- When the band went to Argentina in the 93, Wattie said that the Argentinian public reminded him of Pakistanis (which, coming from an old bonehead, is not flattery, but rather an insult).
- That same year in a concert in Buenos Aires Wattie said that „the Falklands Islands will always be ruled by the Brítish“, which caused a series of incidents at the concert.
- In the video „Rock and Roll Outlaws“, Wattie mentions that Skrewdriver is one of the bands that he likes.
- During a US tour, Wattie declared that he „hated Latins“.
- In the book „Carecas do Subúrbio („Bald Spots of The Suburbs“), written by Brazilian Márcia Regina, is an interview with Wattie of The Exploited, in which he says that the swástika is a „punk“ thing which promotes unity between punks and skins, and affirms their mutual hatred of Pakistanis and Arabs.
- In the song ‘ Dont‘ Blame Me“ on ‘ Beat the Bastards‘ appears a phrase that caused ALOT of controversy since it says „Dont‘ Blame Me / blame immigration for the shit your in“.
Quote: and they cant do anything about the people that beat up people at their shows and they are probably used to it because of the violence in the punk scene back in the day.
Not only they didn't say anything against the nazis beating up people BUT THEY ALSO PLAYED A GIG FOR NAZIS!!!!
When all anti-nazis were beaten up, the only people left in the gig were NAZIS
When you play a show for a PUBLIC OF NAZIS you are NOT anti-nazi
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Wattie's nazi tattoo
and don't say it's photoshopped, there were pictures of wattie in vacation where you could see him without a tshirt and the nazi tattoo was here
on an interview, he also declared that he got a nazi flag in his living room
more infos
http://www.revleft.com/vb/exploited-t41374/index.html
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Migz562
Joined: 07 May 2010, 22:19
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Hey ungovernable I never knew any of this stuff about the exploited. Thanx for posting this up. Now I'm gonna see this band in a different way.
Ps to everyone out there:
Stay open minded
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| 03 Feb 2011, 06:05 |
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BENJA#28
Joined: 07 Sep 2010, 01:25
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Re: Best Casualties Album
casualties = pistols = possers
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TheMinority
Joined: 23 Jan 2011, 15:33
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Re: Best Casualties Album
that pick of the nazi with Wattie, did you read the article???????? I read it and it explained everything
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Explained everything ? Oh yeah it's probably a coincidence that there are many pictures of wattie with nazis all over the internet... it's not only 1 pics, it's MANY pics. On that article he say that he didnt know who he was and blah blah blah.... THE DUDE HAS A FUCKING NAZI TSHIRT how the fuck can he pretend he didnt know he was nazi ??
And i bet that he would also say he didnt know what the swastika meant when he got his tattoo.... BULLSHIT
Read what i have posted. Exploited have been racist and anti-semitist many times.
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| 05 Feb 2011, 03:40 |
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Ripvil
Joined: 03 Feb 2011, 10:28
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Lol you can't debate the faithful. Even just considering the things wattie has himself admitted in interviews, it is clear he is a racist, sexist, homophobic cunt. The only racist sexist homophobic cunts whose music I'll listen to are the Angry Samoans. And possibly Richard Wagner... Gimme downloads.
In my opinion selling out is when you no longer own the rights to your music(your own creative fucking contraption), that is the stupidest thing any artist could ever do, the most self-disrespecting thing, anyway. Even if the Exploited own the rights to their own music, they're still racist sexist homophobic cunts, but I have a feeling they're sell-outs too.
"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright #154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."--Woody Guthrie being hella' punk before any of us were born. If you do that you aren't a sellout, when you start marketing yourself and your creative product, you approach sell-outery.
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kierenfxxkinglegacy
Joined: 11 Jul 2010, 23:31
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Re: Best Casualties Album
ungovernable wrote: Quote: okay dude the song "nazi punks fuck off" was about the skinheads and nazis in the east bay when racist skinheads just started showing up, shortly after the band skrewdriver started. it has nothing to do with the exploited or skater punks you silly wankers.
Oh ok, because we should listen to you instead of DK members.
i got that from reading the book "gimmie something better" which is about the east bay punk scene where the dead kennedys are from. it has quotes directly from the people that were in the bands. one of those people was jello biafra, thats where i found out what "nazi punks fuck off" was about (not that i needed to read about it, the name is pretty self explanitory). you should deffinitly pick this book up if you have the chance!
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ungovernable
Joined: 17 Dec 2009, 23:59
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Re: Best Casualties Album
Quote: Oh ok, because we should listen to you instead of DK members.
Dumbass, WHAT I SAID IS BACKED UP BY FACTS, I POSTED QUOTE BY DEAD KENNEDYS MEMBERS SAYING EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
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kierenfxxkinglegacy
Joined: 11 Jul 2010, 23:31
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Re: Best Casualties Album
in read shit from the same people that said different, so i dunno how true your shit is.
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| 08 Feb 2011, 00:21 |
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Ripvil
Joined: 03 Feb 2011, 10:28
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Re: Best Casualties Album
I like We Are All We Have... Sike!
Quit arguing about stupid shit and tell me where to download some good non-nazi punk.(from the list in the link below)
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=139998
Or atleast give me some good torrent sites that have lots of old hardcore and shit like that, you insubstantial cunts. Go learn about rockets or evolutionary biology or male itch, stop wasting your time thinking about fucking Wattie Buchan or whatever the hell his name is. And find my music, motherfuckers.
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| 08 Feb 2011, 12:55 |
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